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Really very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had currently figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I really did not make clear ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I included that point because when I needed to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go through each in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're mosting likely to discuss a few concerns of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to appear and claim one is better than the various other. So if that's what you're seeking, you'll have to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the distinctions between these two brands? Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines then. Let's chat about engine and in fact simply to specify that the design years, we're going to start from 2000 and up, you recognize, I mean, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around because, you understand, around that time also. Given that 2000, I suggest, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with impact to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the stimulate plug, which triggered issues.
If you're buying anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of trigger plug issues. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll develop coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to change the entire point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I have to state in their favour, because I'm speaking about troubles, it's an extra sophisticated engine. Expenses cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with press rods.
They're just really rather good, sturdy, solid engines. You know, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any type of solution on them is a lot more complicated due to the fact that you've got to get rid of that cover and obtain right into servicing in weird methods. However things like spark plugs last a horrible lengthy time, so they do not require to be changed extremely typically.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't believe of if we have actually ever before done a Chevy, yet Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a long time, like back before the 2000 model year.
So, you recognize, that's still offered. I would not suggest a diesel unless you're transporting exceptionally hefty tons. Diesels require to be functioned. That's really the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not understand, I'm simply going to claim a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually good use having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have less problems in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Most likely because they aren't functioned so hard, however when points happen, they're really costly to repair. We've obtained a great deal of video clips and information about diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually need to think two times regarding getting a diesel in a van. And I will state, Chevy is quite much limited to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine as well, which is a monstrous gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and once more, we're simply speaking regarding kind of a directly, routine cargo van right here. Look at your objective, your use, just how much weight you're carrying and that'll assist you make the decision.
One point that we haven't chatted regarding here is what sort of van. These vans are, and it depends on what model, they're readily available ever before from half lot to one load chassis and really some of the cutaway vans are really a lot more sturdy, like, you know, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Usually the drive trains, you understand, I discover them to be rather much equivalent. Mark: So let's discuss steering and suspension. Just how do they compare? Bernie: You understand, I'm mosting likely to offer the side to Ford on this one. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's less guiding linkage involved in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, but it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you know, the steering linkage is much less difficult, so there's much less components and less items to use out.
The experience in a Ford is most likely a little bit a lot more truck like yet I don't understand if you 'd in fact ever before really saw a difference in between both. It looks like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are pretty a lot the very same, yet I will certainly claim that it appears like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be changed nearly every single time you do a brake task.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake work. And then a lot of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, therefore the caliper requires to be replaced. So I believe on a Ford and you can anticipate to invest a little more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you understand, actually terribly constructed. As a matter of reality, I would certainly say that if you are even taking a look at something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks in basic actually took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 version year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes as an example would certainly not last very long in all.
If we're looking at the 2000 newer, I suggest, I 'd claim they're both possibly quite much equivalent in high quality, fit and finish, you understand, some of the traveler vans, of training course we'll have nicer visits than the cargo vans. I can't say that one of them stands out to me a bit even more than the other.
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